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can Verizon publicly confirm that you are not seeking any kind of "pay for play" or "tiered traffic delivery" business model, that would result in end users paying more if they don't want their content delayed? The press release above vehemently denies a specific detail while completely avoiding the underlying issue that we are all (on both sides of the debate) actually concerned about: will traffic delivery be completely content- and source-agnostic, or is Verizon seeking a new revenue opportunity here?

Then why don't you explain exactly what the conversation is between Verizon and Google? Is Verizon planning on setting up a tiered system for content or not?

Yes, perhaps your CEO Ivan Seidenberg can come out in favor of net neutrality instead of trying to screw small business and harm the economic engine of the United States. Let's be clear, this is not really about network management. This is about Verizon wanting to charge companies so their websites load faster on Verizon's network. Right now, they can't do that and they are trying very hard to change that. So, if you're a small business with a web presence, get ready to pay Verizon if they win. Oh, and if you can't pay as much as Apple or another large company, you're basically screwed. Thanks for harming the little guy and weakening the United States Verizon.

If your talks with Google are so benign, then publish unedited notes of the meetings. Dare you.

Google has not said anything regarding this conversations. They are usually the first ones to jump when anyone is accusing them of bending net neutrality. Will there be a tiered system? What happens to companies that grow on the internet? will they have to be charged different on Verizon's network?

"our goal is an Internet policy framework that ensures openness and accountability," Then why was the meeting not open to the public?

You are saying "there is no secret agreement", but you do not want to explain why, so it is reasonable to think that there is something secret about that.

is there any open document, endorsed by both companies that explains what the google/verizon agreement is about?

is there any open document, endorsed by both companies that explains what the google/verizon agreement is about?

Full disclosure. Why would we trust you?

David, it appears that your explanation uses many words to say nothing. What's really going on?

I can't wait for the FCC to break you up again. That's is the only way to deal with you. Peter

All this talk of "net neutrality" seems to ignore the facts of Internet traffic: different traffic has different requirements. Real-time video (video calls, live video broadcast) has very different requirements than file transfers in terms of packet delay, packet dropping, jitter, and even bit errors. Being able to distinguish this data and treat it differently within a network is critical for the future of the variety of services available over the Internet. Furthermore, organizations that offer large quantities of such network-sensitive traffic will undoubtedly require traffic characteristics that are different from typical source and sink points on the 'net. Differential services is critical to the future of the Internet, regardless of the misguided political machinations of the misunderstanding.

So Google claims no conversations at all about this while Verizon says its not a business deal. Which is the truth? Seems like the two of you should have spoken about who was going to reply and with what since neither of the responses really correlate. This smells very much like damage control when dirty secrets get leaked.

Google and Verizon should have no part in any of these decisions.

making a sweetheart deal with the government that actively crushes your competition *IS* A BUSINESS ARRANGEMENT. Also known as LOBBYING, BRIBING, MONOPOLIZING, CORRUPTING, CONSPIRING... Verizon should fire you and spend that money making their network MORE CAPABLE. The "moderators" are probably trying to minimize this post, so I'll keep submitting till it sticks ;-)

organizations that offer large quantities of such network-sensitive traffic will undoubtedly require traffic characteristics that are different from typical source and sink points on the 'net. Differential services is critical to the future of the Internet, regardless of the misguided political machinations of the misunderstanding.

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Verizon tricked me into moving to a higher billing plan to cover a potential minutes overage. They then charged me almost as much in overage minutes based on a pro-rating the previous plan and minutes used. So, instead of doing the right thing I am now out 200% of what my monthly costs would have been. Their web site is misleading and the practice is crooked. Calls to customer service advised me that what was done via the web site was not reversable. They will get no further business from myself or extended network of business users. Andrew G

As wonderfully fast as FiOS internet is, I would like to maintain that Net Neutrality.