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This is good news. I am a Rangers fan and would love to watch the Rangers in HD on Fios. Cablevision is a monopoly. Period. They own the sports team, the building they play in, the channel they are broadcasted on, and the system that has the channel. I hope that Verizon has been pursuing this for a while. Can we expect an outcome from the FCC anytime soon on this?? I would love to have this by the time Hickey season starts.
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Frank
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July 25, 2008, 10:29 AM EST
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This practice is hurting Verizon and keeping customers away. I'm living proof. FiOS TV is coming to West Seneca. According to most reports my home (new build in WS) should be eligible by late September/October. However, without MSG HD I can't make the jump from DirecTV to Verizon. Quite frankly I'm a huge Sabres fan. Having their games in HD is critical from my perspective. I cannot justify a move that will cause me to lose my main programming interest during the months of October through (hopefully) May. I think I may have to bite the bullet and re-up with DirecTV for two more years (contract renews with moving installation). If things change withing the next couple of months (I was planning to get Time Warner temporarily until FiOS TV is ready to go) I'll gladly jump on board. Either way, I hope Cablevision burns for this...
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| Posted by:
Phil Georger
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July 25, 2008, 10:43 AM EST
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Eric, That is just an awesome post! It is so nice to see Verizon really standing up to the pettiness of the Dolans. It is obvious that they do not want the Knick and Ranger fans who are in the Cablevision market to switch to Fios and they are trying to hold them hostage via MSG-HD. Is there anyone in particular that Fios customers (FiosFans?!...lol) can write to at the FCC about this situation? Looking forward to my install on the 20th!
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| Posted by:
Chet
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July 25, 2008, 11:32 AM EST
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VZ should then really carry an "HD Version" of MSNBC, supplied by fiber, to CableVision areas, claiming "it is somehow not the same “programming” as the standard definition format delivered using satellites" ...... Even if it's just upconverted, until they launch an actual HD MSNBC ...
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| Posted by:
JP
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July 25, 2008, 11:46 AM EST
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Eric - is this a variation of the same issue that is keeping MLB extra innings off Verizon? We are being pressured by DirecTV to upgrade to their new dish/HD format. I would prefer to use this opportunity to switch to Fios TV (we already have it for phone and Internet), but until I can get the Red Sox from Verizon, I will have to stay with DTV.
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David Stievater
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July 25, 2008, 02:05 PM EST
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Thank you for shedding some light on this. Is there anything we as consumers can do to help stop them from doing this? Who can we call or write to? I really want the FCC to stop them from doing this before the start of the NHL season!
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| Posted by:
Tim
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July 25, 2008, 03:26 PM EST
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Eric, Is that the same reason that you do not carry Fox Sports Pittsburgh in HD? I was hoping to see this channel added with the new updates scheduled for 8/6 for Pittsburgh. It is not there. Are they playing the same kind of hardball? FYI - Have your tech guys look at this website. It frequently loads slow and sometimes I will have to refresh because of some error.
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| Posted by:
Chuck
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July 25, 2008, 05:26 PM EST
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Hope you have success with the FCC. Cablevision is clearly in the wrong on this one. On another note, when can we expect the NHL Network on FiOS? And Center Ice as well?
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BishopQ
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July 26, 2008, 02:24 PM EST
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Thank you for addressing this in the Verizon blog and keeping NY sports customers in the loop. Many of us expected it was the strong arm tactics of Cablevision. It begs the question, "Why offer it to DirecTV, but not to Verizon?" Simply put, they are getting beat and losing customers hand over fist. There are many people who won't switch if it means losing their Islanders, Rangers, Knicks and Devils in HD. I just happen to have DirecTV for football,so I'm able to pick up those games in HD. Not only should the FCC instruct Cablevision to allow Verizon to pick up these channels, they should also be fined for clearly violating the directive handed out. Enough is enough. By the way, I'd be happy to be the first to sign a petition asking the FCC to instruct Cablevision to offer up MSGHD, FSNYHD to Verizon. Is there a timeline for when this could happen? Keep us updated.
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| Posted by:
Chris
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July 26, 2008, 02:50 PM EST
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Thanks for the information, Eric. Hopefully the FCC will rule in a timely fashion (not satellite radio merger pace) that Cablevision has to make all formats of MSG available. Would writing our elected officials help? Thanks, Dan
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| Posted by:
Dan
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July 28, 2008, 10:38 PM EST
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Chris, Tim, Chet and Frank, Thanks for your comments. We expect the FCC to continue its inquiry into program access rules over the next several months. You can send an e-mail or letter to the FCC to express your opinions about this issue. Just be sure to say that your comments relate to “MB Docket No. 07-198.” You can find contact information for the FCC at http://www.fcc.gov/contacts.html Eric
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| Posted by:
Eric Rabe
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July 30, 2008, 10:40 AM EST
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Chuck, My comments about MSG in HD don’t apply to Fox Sports Pittsburgh in HD. Regarding PolicyBlog – it’s undergoing some long overdue upgrades, and speed and uptime should improve dramatically when they are done.
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| Posted by:
Eric Rabe
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July 30, 2008, 10:44 AM EST
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David, My comments about MSG HD don’t apply to MLB Extra Innings. Eric
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| Posted by:
Eric Rabe
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July 30, 2008, 10:46 AM EST
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Eric, Re: Fox Sports Pittsburgh. Are you planning on carrying this channel in HD? I noticed that other markets you serve have their local Fox Sports affiliate in HD. Also, the cable competition (Comcast and Armstrong) carry it in HD already. That is why I was very surprised it was not included in the HD upgrade for Pittsburgh on 8/6. FYi - Several co-workers have mentioned they would not switch over to Fios TV until you carry it in HD. Thanks for your time.
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| Posted by:
Chuck
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July 30, 2008, 07:59 PM EST
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Dan, We expect the FCC to continue its inquiry into program access rules over the next several months. You can send an e-mail or letter to the FCC to express your opinions about this issue. Just be sure to say that your comments relate to “MB Docket No. 07-198.” You can find contact information for the FCC at http://www.fcc.gov/contacts.html Eric
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| Posted by:
Eric Rabe
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July 31, 2008, 11:29 AM EST
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Thanks, Eric. I'll get an e-mail off with the hopes that the FCC will know that the public is paying attention to how they will decide this.
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| Posted by:
Dan
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July 31, 2008, 04:21 PM EST
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Chuck, One of our priorities is to deliver as much HD sports content as we can, but I can’t be more specific about Fox Sports Net Pittsburgh HD at this time. Eric
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| Posted by:
Eric Rabe
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August 01, 2008, 10:57 AM EST
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No surprise here. The minute I had the opportunity to dump the Dolans and get away from Cablevision...I did. I switched to DirecTV and now I am with FIOS. I love the picture and sound quality...the best. I'm glad Verizon added TBS HD for the MLB playoffs. Does anyone have an idea when or if FSNY HD will be available for Islander games? Or is this the Dolans again playing games again?
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| Posted by:
Thomas
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August 02, 2008, 01:02 AM EST
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I don't get the point of a cable company offering something exclusively, because in most cases, in most places, YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE YOUR CABLE COMPANY. If I live in Comcast territory (and I do), the only way for me to get MSG in HD is to MOVE? How is this sort of crap allowed?
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| Posted by:
Ken
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August 05, 2008, 07:37 AM EST
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Thomas, Glad to hear that you’re enjoying FiOS TV. Like MSG in HD, Cablevision has not made FSN NY in HD available to Verizon. Eric
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Eric Rabe
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August 06, 2008, 09:59 AM EST
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Thomas : FSN NY HD is now MSG Plus HD. It was renamed in MArch 2008. I did read that the 2 MSG Networks SD are better than they are on Cable. Hope Verizon FIOS gets MSG HD and MSG Plus HD soon. I will see on August 20 the SD Quality of MSG and MSG Plus. Aug 20 is my installation. Billy
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| Posted by:
Billy
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August 06, 2008, 06:39 PM EST
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Hey Eric, What are the odds MSGHD will be available on FIOS by the start of hockey season (October 4th). I love FIOS but I am also a die hard ranger fan and cannot stand to watch the rangers in standard definition on my 50" hd. I do not want to switch from FIOS, but if it is the only way for me to get MSGHD I might have no other choice. Can you weigh in the on the chance we'll have it by October, or at all ever?
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| Posted by:
Jon
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August 06, 2008, 07:25 PM EST
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Ken, As I mentioned in my blog, you can send an e-mail or letter to the FCC to express your opinions about this issue. Just be sure to say that your comments relate to “MB Docket No. 07-198.” You can find contact information for the FCC at http://www.fcc.gov/contacts.html. Eric
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Eric Rabe
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August 07, 2008, 07:56 AM EST
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For people on Staten Island who have FIOS TV already, can you tell me how SD MSG and MSG Plus in SD is on FIOS ? Like give me a rundown on how it is before I get FIOS TV on Aug 20? Is it better than TW Cable ? Thanks Billy
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billy
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August 11, 2008, 03:11 PM EST
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What is the difference between HD Extreme and the Premeir package. I noticed that several channels are missing between the two of there. Does Verizon have any plans to add them?
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| Posted by:
John Keith
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August 12, 2008, 09:38 PM EST
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I was hoping FIOS would bring me more choices in sports channels. When is MLB package going to be offered? Is there any chance of people outside of GA, AL, Ms being able to get Peachtree TV or SportsSouth so that we can follow the Atlanta Braves?
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| Posted by:
Patrick Whitfield
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August 14, 2008, 06:21 PM EST
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I have to say that this is a terrible business practice Cablvision is using here. I once had FIOS and had to terminate the service because there was no HD channels for MSG and Fox Sports New York, now MSG Plus. For people like me, this is the make or brake reason why I would go with a provider. I have DirecTV now and "Yes", they do have the HD channels for MSG and MSG Plus. I belive Cablevison claims they are the only ones to have it, not truthfull! As a paying customer I see no reason why they would not give it to other providers, they still make their money! They would get more viewership which would turn into higher ratings and ultimaltey more revenue for them, it's a no brainer!
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| Posted by:
Robert Kenny
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August 15, 2008, 11:20 AM EST
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Just took the plunge and switched from TWC(NJ) to Fios.... I am hoping and begging that Verizon acquires the rights to MSG HD and MSG+ HD before hockey season starts... I already wrote to the FCC regarding this issue as Eric Rabe suggested, and I hope everyone else does too!
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| Posted by:
John
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August 26, 2008, 11:26 PM EST
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I wrote and emailed the FCC as well. I also called the FCC and they said they don't deal with Cable Networks , only Broadcast. Why is that when it says here that Verizon has the FCC involved as it did in 2006 , and that the MSG SD and MSG + SD is on FIOS, it should automatically included MSG HD and MSG PLus HD. I also read last night on multichannel.com that Comcast and MASN (Mid Atlantic Sports Network ) is at odds with carriage too, and that Comcast has asked the FCC to intervene as well so I don't get where the FCC includes themselves with Broadcast and not Cable Networks, any suggestions ot ideas , any new news surfacing about the HD of MSG and MSG + on FIOS before September, NHL Pre season begins . Thanks Billy , FIOS TV Customer Staten Island NY 10309
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| Posted by:
Billy
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August 27, 2008, 04:15 PM EST
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Billy I don’t have anything more for you on the MSG issue at this poins. But we sure appreciate the support that Billy and a lot of others have offered. Eric
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Eric Rabe
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August 29, 2008, 03:14 PM EST
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Eric Thanks for your update,. Hope to hear some good news soon. And Note when I email MSG Network (msgnetpr@msgnetwork.com) for updates, they tell me to contact Verizon. I am waiting for the NHL and NBA Season to start, because I have to see how the SD Quality of MSG and MSG + in LIVE Events. Also waiting for Staten Island Local Programming as well as FIOS 1, (Channel 1) , AKA NY 1 on TW Cable. Currently Un Available is now displayed on the "Local Channels ". Who I did write /email to of the FCC was the Chairman and Commissioners. Thanks Billy
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Billy
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August 31, 2008, 10:47 PM EST
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I know this is off topic and that I am not complaining, but did a deal with MSNBC and Cablevision get agreed on, I have MSNBC in Staten Island, Channel 103 and I do recall that MSNBC was to be only on during the Olympics and like MSG HD and MSG + HD, MSNBC is an CV Exclusive. The olympics are over for a week now. Will you provide a new update on when an agreement is reached for MSG HD and MSG Plus HD ? Knicks, Rangers, Islanders and Devils begin in a few months or less. Billy Burgess FIOS Customer
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billy
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September 01, 2008, 12:01 AM EST
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Eric http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6593665.html Go to this, it hints that MSG HD could be on Verizon FIOS in the next few months, lets hope its on and lets hope its sooner. Thanks Billy
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billy
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September 06, 2008, 10:43 PM EST
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Pressuring the Cablevision and MSG Network and FCC, Don't they have a hint? , The hint is get MSG HD and MSG + HD on the Verizon FIOS TV System's . For 2 years , after the SD was signed on to Verizon carrying MSG and then FSN New York, (November 16, 2006). , Pressure has been mounting on the FCC , MSG Network and Cablevision to get the HD on Verizon, don't they think what customers are hinting at. How is the MSG , MSG + delivered differently (Over Satellite) and MSG HD and MSG + HD is delivered Not over Satellite , but over Fiber according to Cablevision ). How is the SD and HD feeds on Time Warner Cable, DIRECTV , Comcast and Not Verizon? It really makes no sense
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| Posted by:
Billy Burgess
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September 09, 2008, 01:19 PM EST
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It's like having a finger on that red button, ready to pull the trigger but having to wait for that last detail before launch... That's how I feel with this MSG HD business. While NHL Center Ice and NHL Network would be nice, they're not deal-breakers for me. I'm saddled with Crime Warner right now and the amount of HD available to me is downright depressing. But, seeing the Sabres in HD is THAT important to me. I'm so torn at pulling the trigger and hoping that I'll only miss a handful of games in HD before MSG HD gets flipped on, and holding out and keeping the TWC service so that my hockey-viewing experience does not suffer. Eric, I sincerely thank you for keeping us informed and I trust that due diligence is being done to add the content we as customers are seeking. For what it's worth though, I'll be writing the FCC, MSG, and the Sabres, and what the heck, maybe even Chuck Schumer too. This needs to get done.
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| Posted by:
Phil Georger
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September 15, 2008, 12:40 PM EST
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I love my Verizon FiOS, but I love my NHL too and it's a damn shame that Verizon FiOS doesn't carry the NHL Network! Time Warner, Charter, Comcast, Cablevision and Cox all carry it, so why not you Verizon??? The NHL may not be as glorious as the NFL, but there are many many devoted NHL fans it the United States. Do the right thing and broadcast the NHL Network Verizon FiOS!!!
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| Posted by:
George
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September 19, 2008, 12:12 PM EST
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As a potential FiOS subscriber I'm very proud to see that you guys are taking the appropriate steps in getting this situation handled properly. The fact that Cablevision denies the HD feed--which it sounds like they are required to offer--and then goes and advertises that they're the only ones in town to offer it is incredibly unethical. Word will continue to spread and get out about these shady practices. I'm sure there are thousands of potential FiOS subscribers like myself who are waiting for the opportunity to have NYC sports in HD and are behind you, fighting the good fight. I also appreciate the transparency you are providing regarding the matter and wish you luck. Please continue to keep us updated!
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| Posted by:
Jeff
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September 20, 2008, 12:01 PM EST
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I would like to have a MSG HD and Spike HD available on FIOS TV is as soon as possible. It is unfair that Cablevision is witholding these channels. Any idea when they will be come available?
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| Posted by:
Rob
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September 23, 2008, 11:44 PM EST
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Rob, Cablevision doesn’t own Spike, so it’s not part of the issue I blogged about here, but I don’t have any updates on availability. Eric
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| Posted by:
Eric Rabe
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September 26, 2008, 01:47 PM EST
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